Numb. IL "ITT ENDIX. having thofe Tokens which. fhe is bound to judge by as probable, mull needs have the Benefitof his Miniftry'in their way of Duty ; for God rciluireth no Duty in vain t As alfo becaufe nemini debetur palm ex aliena .. culpa, qua ta10 éfb. Novi whe- ther we fhall'difpute de neceftate ordination'; advfioiam veram dy legitiniumproprie ÉP primario fic,diúam,. er inforo Dei? Or Only as ad Oficium analogicum ficundario b minas proprie in foro tantum ecclefia: fie dit7um? is to be confidered. How fat your Senfe will concur I know nor, but in refpeet of both thefè do I held my former Negations; Yet further, beforei either anfwer your Arguments, or determine of the Senfe of our Qùellion, it is very neceffary that the end of our Enquiry be underflood, which in'order mutt go before the means. I take it for granted, that you do not difpute this quefion as neceffary to be determined in order to our Affö- elation, beforeyou can join with the prefent Miniftry : Or yet as neceffary to the Determination of that further Queftion, whether thofe are true Miniflers that and not Ordained by Bifhops ? and thofe true Organized Churches that have onlyfuch Wafflers? for if I thought this were your end, i would difpute many other Que- Rions grit; before we carne to this ; and try firft whether you could prove that the Presbyterian Churches cannot produce a Succefiion of true Ordination, on the fame Grounds as the Epilèopal for the main. But I fuppoht your Ends are thine other, and in fpecial thofe mentioned in your Paper t I conjedture that I ¡hall near- eft approach your Senfe, if I flare theO ellion thus ; Whether an Ordination by Ecclelallical Men, having ¡Mt Authority thereto, be in all Times and Cafes fined the Apoftiesof abfolute Neceffity to 'thevery beingof the Minifterial Ofiìce, both coram Deo, & coram Ecclefâ ? and confequently anuninterrupted Sacceflïonof filch Ordination he of the fame Neceffity ? For if I Ihould put the Qirefion about Im- poGtion ofIlands, or de modo altquo ordinatili; I know not but I might tuffs of your Senfe on one Side; andon the other, ifI fhoüld extend is to all Ordination, whe, they by Magiftrates or others: Your Firft Argument I-fappofe 1hot.ld be formed thus: That which the .EnglilhBifhops thought neceffary to proveagainft the Papifts, that is neceffary to be proved againft them : But the English Bilhops.thought it neceffary against the Papifts to prove the Non-interruption of 'their Sueceffïon in juft Ordination Er- go, Refj,. r. Concedo totem : It was neceffary to prove it againft the Papifts arguing ad Hominem, becaufe it is the way of fuller Coovi&ion and Satisfa&ion when a Mari can confute an Adverfary on his owt tGrhuhdss. -It will much fhorten the Difpute whenwe thew them, that though we fhouid grant the Neceffityof fuch Succeifion; yet we need not grant the Nullityof our Calling. z. I deny that the EnglishBi- lhops much lefs the Church of England did ever judge is neceffary any farther than ad Hominem i I. Becaufe it is apparent that they do ordinarily in their Writings £peak againft the Papills fupp:ofed Neceflity of Ordination, as I -instanced out of lotne ofthem inmy Book. It is known to bea Point wherein the Proteftants have commonly oppofed the Papifts. a. it is known to be but the later decliningGene ration of Bifhops; fuch as Montague, 'Land, and their Confederates, moR in King Charles his Days, very few in King yames's, and Farce any at all in Queen Eieza- feth'e that do join with the Papifts in pleading the Neceffity of Succeffion : Even` fùch Men-as were as zealous againft Queen Elizabeth's Epileopal Proteftants, as againft the Papills, at krill manyof them. 3. The reih do exprelly mention Suc- ceflinn, and confute the Fable of the Nag's-Head Ordination in Cheapfide, to prove the Papifts Slanderers i So touch to your Minor. g. If thatwill net terse, I deny your. Major: All is not neceffary that they thought neceffary : Proteftants pretend`. not to Infallabiliry inControverfals, Many more, perhaps ten to one at leaft,> of the English Clergy hekhic not neceffary, tittles, as aforefaid. Ad a". Your fecotayArgument hath all the Strength in it, or rather thew of Strength firit we mutt heeds díftinguifh of yourTerms (Mediately and Immedi_ ately). A ConRitution may be fìid to be from Chrilt mediately, either in Re fpe& to a mediating PeiIon, or to force mediating Sign only; Allò it maybe faid to be mediante perfena; n. when the Perfon is the caufe totai, fubordinata confiitu=. ends, as having himfelf received the Powerfrom God, and beingas from himfelf to convey it unto Man: a. Or-when the Perron is but Caufa per accident. g. Or when he is only Cauf five qua nail, vet querenua impedementa removit, vet lumen*"' eje, Atlione, flint conditioner neceffçrie. And SO I anfwer, i. Immediately in the ffrit abfolute Seofe 6- exclndendo perbbnar& re,, no Man ever had any Right commini- cated, or Duty impofed on him by God, unlefs perhaps the immediate Imprefi, or fupernatutal Revelation of tine Holy Ghoft to fòme Prophet or Apoffle Might be field' todo this. Mufe himfelf bad time TenCommandments' written in Stone, which were
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