ip 138 LIVES OF THE PURITANS. Ireland. They belong to the papists, therefore throw them to them. Watts. You would have us use nothing that the papists used. Then should we use no churches, seeing the papists used them. Hawkins. Churches are necessary to keep our bodies from the rain ; but copes and surplices are superstitious and idolatrous. White. Christ did cast the buyers and sellers, and their wares, out of the temple, yet was riot the temple overthrown. Bishop. Things not forbidden of God, may be used for the sake of order and obedience. This is according to the judgment of the learned Bullinger. We, therefore, desire you to be conforniable. Smith. What if I can shew you Bullinger against Bal- linger, in this thing ? Bishop. I think you cannot, Smith. Smith. Yes, that I can. Bishop. Though we differ from other reformed churches, in rites and ceremonies, we agree with them in the substance of doctrine. Hawkins. Yes, but we should follow the truth in all things. Christ saith, " Go ye, therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost ; teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commandedyou." But you have brought the gospel and its ordinances into bondage to the ceremonies of antichrist ; and you defend idolatry and papistry. You have mingled your own inventions with every ordinance of Christ, How do you address godfathers and odmothers in baptism atts. Oh a wise reason. Bishop. How sayyou of the church atGeneva ? Theycom- municate with wafer cakes, which you are so much against, Nixson. Yes, but they do not compel any to receive it so and in no other way. Bishop. Yes, in their parish churches. White. The English congregation, while residing there, did minister the sacrament with loaf bread. Bishop. Because theywere of another language. White. It is good to follow the best example. But we must follow them only as they follow Christ. Dean. All the learned men in Europe are against you. Watts. Youwill believe no man. Smith. Yes, we reverence the learned at Geneva, and
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