UNDERDOWN. 271 A. Let us see the book. Hartwell. They are the last words of the rubric. A. The meaning of the book is to exclude the popish opinion of confirmation, as if it were as necessary asbaptism. Therefore, those whohave been baptized have all outward things necessary to salvation, even without confirmation. H. The words may be taken in another sense, and, there- fore, may not be subscribed without some deliberation. Dean. I wonder you do not subscribe, seeing there is nothing in the second article.which is not in the third, and you are willing to subscribe the third. U. We have subscribed to the third already; and seeing all things contained in the second are contained in the third, we desire you to be satisfied with that subscription. B. Not so. Norden. How do your lordships understand these words, " Receive the Holy Ghost, for the office ofa priest ?" A. Not imperatively, but optatively ; and this speech is much the same as that other, " I baptize thee," &c. B. We cannot give the Holy Ghost. B. Roches. Do you not think, that when we use these words, we do communicate something ? U. I think not, my lord. For persons return from you no better furnished, than when they came unto you, if we may form our opinion from their practice. A. We hope you are now resolved, and will now sub- scribe. You are unlearned, and only boys in comparison of us, who studied divinity before most of you were born. U. We acknowledge our youth, my lord, and have no high opinion of our learning. Yet we hold ourselves sufficiently learned to know and teach Jesus Christ, as the way of salvation. Hopk. If we subscribe under such interpretations, our subscription maybecome dangerous to us hereafter, when no interpretation may be allowed ; therefore, we desire. some protestation. A. I will admit no protestation. Dean. Come, Mr. Hopkinson, subscribe. My lord will favour you much, and help you against your adversaries. Hopk. We must be better advised, Mr. Dean. A. Go into the garden, or elsewhere, and considerof this matter, and return here again. These divines having retired for, some time, after con- sultation among themselves, they returned and consented
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